An important conversation has been taking place via email that pertains to the CCCC, UCC and the Reformed Congregational Fellowship.
It began when David Brand sent this email:
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:55:45 -0400
Dear Brethren,
I received a copy of of /The Witnness/, the news publication of the Biblical Witness Fellowship, and note that there will be a First National Gathering of "Faithful and Welcoming Churches of the UCC" under the rubric "Here I Stand! Proclaiming the Historic Faith in Turbulent Times," July 2-4, 2006, Grove City, Ohio (near Columbus). Three topics will be addressed: Reforming the Mainline Church, Responding to Pro-gay Theology, and Rallying Lay People for Renewal. The speakers have impressive credentials. For more information, go to <
www.faithfulandwelcoming.org>.
My own thought is that we ought to stand with these brethren and let them know of our support. Also we ministers might do well to write articles about this meeting and send them to the editors of our local newspapers in Ohio, and throughout the nation for that matter, so that lay people and pastors within the UCC churches in our communities will learn about this National Gathering and participate rather than simply conceding to the status quo. Sometimes liberal pastors keep the lay people in the dark and the lay people have no idea where to turn for support. Certainly we can not expect liberal, timid, and weak-willed pastors to submit announcements of this First National Gathering to the local news even though they may be fully aware of it. We can offset such irresponsible leadership by helping to get the word out so that the faithful will have a rallying point. I think that by supporting our brethren in this way we will demonstrate our concern for the church at large. It just might be that down the road, they will need our further assistance. This will be more productive in the long run, I think, than sheep stealing, though certainly we should welcome any and all who desire to come our way out of frustration with their denominational leadership and direction..
Respectfully in Christ,
David Brand
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Although I sympathize with the Evangelicals within the UCC, my suggestion is
to get out. The UCC was formed by the merger of two Liberal-dominated
denominations, the General Council of Congregational and Christian churches
and the Evangelical and Reformed Church. Did any faithful evangelical then
think that the new denomination was not going to move even more
theologically left. The Second Law of Thermodynamics still holds true.
Even the name of the new denomination was an affront to biblical and
historic Congregationalists, i.e. the United Church of Christ. It is a
semi-presbyterian body with the local associations ordaining and
credentialing ministers.
J. Gresham Machen was on the mark when he said that Liberalism was another
religion and not Christianity. The worse thing that the CCCC could do is to
encourage "reform" within the UCC. Our CCCC founders were perceptive and
prophetic when they founded our denomination. The CCCC should stand as a
home for Biblical Congregationalists and leave the door open for those whom
wish to join us. We are not being loving nor Biblical to those Evangelicals
within the UCC by encouraging them to stay within that apostate
denomination.
David Williams
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While I wish to affirm Dave Brand's inclination to encourage believing Christians of whatever stripe, I do agree with David Williams that the time is long overdue to be encouraging remaining evangelicals within the UCC...to come out from the unclean thing...it might even be fair to say that, if first century criteria for removal of self were applied today, all Christians within the UCC would have removed themselves years ago...not even first century Judaism, which rejected Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah, openly endorsed and advocated for: abortion on demand; ordination of sodomites into the ministry; homosexual "marriage," etc. The UCC even more than mormonism, the jehovah witnesses, the scientologists, and atheist university professors, the freemasons, etc., advocate "another gospel" shamelessly; in fact, they revel in the perversins they advocate. If separation not now, then when, and on what basis? How much worse should the apostacy go before departing? I mean, this is the organization of which the UUA several years ago said that it was "comfortable" with the UCC...now there's an endorsement of the devil's crowd if ever there was one!
Fraternally in Christ,
Marshall Pierson
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Marshall is correct.
The UCC is functionally Unitarian and Universal, which puts it outside of the pale of Christianity by any definition -- Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox. The only real difference between the UCC and the UUA is that the UCC does not have the moral courage to openly confess its theology. It chooses to hide behind the language of some perceived "historical" Christian position it pays lip service to.
The UCC leadership is committed to their cause and perspective to the death. They understand the whole of the history of the world to have lead them to the place where they are, and that they are preparing the way for a "new world order" of biblical proportion.
Yet, it still deceptively speaks some Christian and Trinitarian language because it is afraid of loosing the majority of cowardly supporters who will not face the fact that their beloved tradition is rotten to the core. It's not a lot different from the common practice of cognitive dissonance that is practiced in the churches generally, except that it is an example of the power of extreme cognitive dissonance to blind people to the truth. If they haven't seen it by now, they are not likely to ever see it, save in the midst of great trial and tribulation.
The truth about the UCC is painful and ugly, and people don't like thinking about painful things or looking at ugly things. So, they turn a blind eye and "hope for the best." This is not a new phenomena, but I suspect that it precedes every period of national collapse.
Phil Ross
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Brethren in Christ,
I can appreciate what has been spoke by Dave Williams and Marshall Pierson. An abomination is just that--an abomination, and Christians are called to separate themselves from such; and in trying to rescue others caught up in it, they are admonished to hate even the garment spotted by the flesh (Jude23). May I mention a few things that bear on Dave's and Marshall's comments.
First, that generation that crucified our Lord, while more "purist" than the UCC, was covering up a lot (John 8:7).
Second, Jesus made it clear that that Sodom and Gomorrah would receive greater tolerance in the Judgment than a community of Jews that rejected His message (Matt. 10:15).
Third, the separation that took place between the church which Jesus established and the corrupt institution of Judaism of His day was the natural result of rejection of Jesus and, in turn, His disciples and their message and the reinforcement of that rejection with persecutuon (Matt. 10:14; Acts 13:46; 28:28).
Third, the Faithful and Welcoming Churches' proposed First National Gathering, is to be a /standing apart/ (i.e., a separation) from the wickedness that has gotten a foothold in much of the leadership structure of the UCC.
Fourth, in some ways the confessional stance of the Faithful and Welcoming Churches is superior to our own. They affirm Jesus Christ as Lord. Our Statement of Faith does not specifically mention the name of Jesus--though, it could be argued, it is implied, and our Polity Statement affirms Jesus as Head of His body, the church. They affirm that God is the Creator and Sustainer of heaven and earth. Our Statement makes no mention of these marvelous truths. They affirm the Apostle's Creed which provides historic context for our faith mentioning the virgin's name and the name of Pontius Pilate. Our CCCC Statement provides no historic context for the truths that it sets forth. They affirm the great ecumenical creeds and the confessions of the Reformation. Our Statement, though affirming the triune nature of God and the deity of Christ, comes up a bit short with respect to affirming Christ's full humanity, and makes no reference to the historic creeds and confessions. They affirm Jesus Christ as Head of the Church. Our Statement of Faith not only makes no reference to Jesus--it makes no reference to the church--though our polity statement does! They clarify that there are two sacraments--baptism and the Lord's Supper.
Our Statement does not mention baptism and the Lord's Supper, and if our "essentials" are defined strictly in terms of our Statement, presumably someone could be received into the CCCC who does not believe that local congregations should administer water baptism or celebrate the Lord's Supper. Perhaps in separating from the parent body of congregationalists, the CCCC threw out some of the baby with the bathwater! I appreciate the fact that the Faithful and Welcoming Churches are intent on not letting that happen to themselves. I also appreciate their sense of catholicity and regard for the unity of Christ's body which, I am sure, we share as well.
Fifth, the Biblical Witness Fellowship which has posted the announcement concerning the First National Gathering must be doing something right, for they are incurring much alignment from the evil men who are desperate to maintain their control. The Faithful and Welcoming, after all are the legitimate group of the UCC--the wicked are the impostors.
Sixth, as I read the information on their website, I see that the Faithful and Welcoming Churches of the UCC are not blindly committed to remaining in the denomination at any cost. For them faithfulness to the Gospel is of a higher priority. They realize that this year could be the year they will have no choice but to withdraw.
Seventh, our own Congregational heritage is instructive for us. There were two groups of Congregationalists who settled in New England: the Plymouth Plantation and the Massacusetts Bay Colony. The former were Separating Congregationalists (the "come outers" from the Church of England). The latter were Non-Separating Congregationalists who, when visiting Old England, would worship in the Anglican churches. Was one group superior to the other? Let each of us be fully persuade in his own mind, but it is not an easy question. The Plymouth group's pastor, John Robinson, received some counsel in this matter from Williams Ames when they were all residing in the Netherlands, and apparently that had an impact on the congregation. preparing them for amiable relations with their Massachusetts Bay brethren. Otherwise the Plymouth Plantation brethren might have followed the example of Roger Williams who did noit make it at Plymouth, and later insisted that the Salem church withdraw from associating with the other churches of the Bay Colony because they would not break away from the Church of England.
Finally, it might be good for all of us to take another look at the following chapter from the historic Cambridge Platform, for it reminds us of the seriousness with which the Christian should take his departure from a local congregation, as well as the fact that in some cases it may be unavoidable, if he is to be true to his convictions:
*Chapter XIII. Of Church-Members, Their Removal from One Church to Another, and of Recommendation and Dismissio*n.
1. Church-Members may not remove or depart from the church, and so one from another as they please, nor without just and weighty cause, but ought to live and dwell together, (Heb. x. 25,) forasmuch as they are commanded not to forsake the assembling of themselves together. Such departure tends to the dissolution and ruin of the body, as the pulling of stones and pieces of timber from the building, and of members from the natural body, tend to the destruction of the whole.
2. It is, therefore, the duty of church-members, in such times and places, where counsel may be had, to consult with the church whereof they are members (Pro. xi. 16,) about their removal, that, accordingly, they having their approbation, may be encouraged, or otherwise desist They who are joined with consent, should not depart without consent, except forced thereunto.
<>3. If a member's departure be manifestly unsafe and sinful, the church may not consent thereunto; for in so doing, (Re. xiv.23,) they should not act in faith, and should partake with him in his sin. (I Tim. v. 22.) If the case be doubtful and the person not to be persuaded, (Acts xxi. 14,) it seems best to leave the matter unto God, and not forcibly to, detain him.
4. Just reasons for a member's removal of himself from the church, are--1, If a man cannot continue without partaking in sin. (Eph. v. 11.) 2, In case of personal persecution: (Acts ix. 25. 29, 30, and viii. 1,) so Paul departed from the disciples at Damascus; also, in case of general persecution, when all are scattered. In case of real, and not only pretended want of competent subsistence, a door being opened for better supply in another place, (Neh. xiii. 20,) together with the means of spiritual edification. In these or like cases, a member may lawfully remove, and the church cannot lawfully detain him.
5. To separate from a church, either out of contempt of their holy fellowship, (2 Tim. iv. 10,) or out of covetousness, or for greater enlargements, with just grief to the church, or out of schism, or want of love, and out of a spirit of contention in respect of some unkindness, of some evil only conceived or intended in the church, which might and should be tolerated and healed with a spirit of meekness, and of which evil the church is not yet convinced (though perhaps himself be) nor admonished; for these or the like reasons, to withdraw from public communion in word or seals, or censures, is unlawful and sinful.
6. Such members as have orderly moved their habitation, ought to join themselves unto the church in order (Isa. lvi. 8,) where they do inhabit., (Acts ix. 28,) if it may be; otherwise, they can neither perform the duties nor receive the privileges of members. Such an example, tolerated in some, is apt to corrupt others, which, if many should follow, would threaten the dissolution and confusion of churches, contrary to the Scripture. (1 Cor. xiv. 33.)
7. Order requires that a member thus removing, have letters testimonial and of dismission from the church (Act. xviii. 27,) whereof he yet is, unto the church whereunto he desires to be joined, lest the church should be deluded; that the church may receive him in faith, and not be corrupted in receiving deceivers and false brethren. Until the person dismissed be received unto another church, he ceases not by his letters of dismission to be a member of the church whereof he was. The church cannot make member no member but by excommunication.
8. If a member be called to remove only for a time where a church is, (Rom. xvi. 1, 2,) letters of recommendation are requisite and sufficient for communion with that church (2 Cor. iii. 1) in the ordinances and in their watch; as Phoebe, a servant of the church at Cenchrea, had a letter written for her to the church at Rome, that she might be received as becomes saints.
9. Such 1etters of recommendation and dismission (Acts xviii. 27) were written for Apollos, for Marcus to the Colossians, (Col. iv. 10,) for Phoebe to the Romans, (Rom. xvi. 1,) for sundry other churches. (2 Cor. iii. 5.) And the apostle tells us that some persons, not sufficiently known otherwise, have special need of such letters, though he, for his pert, had no need thereof. The use of them is to be a benefit and help to the party for whom they are written, and for the furthering of his receiving among the saints, in the place whereto he goes, and the due satisfaction of them in their receiving of him.
Respectfully in Christ,
Dave Brand